Comments on: Green v Jones Jr: before, after and after that…

By: John Dickinson

John Dickinson — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:33:28 +0000

Thanks for giving us your opinion Benjamin. Best wishes, John.

By: Benjamin Eshagpoor

Benjamin Eshagpoor — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:12:58 +0000

I know I’m a late comer to this discussion, but I definitely like the first one the best.

It wouldn’t be the first time I’ve disagreed with a client. Haha! Client gets what the client wants!

By: Green V Jones Jr. « brettmorris.com.au

Green V Jones Jr. « brettmorris.com.au — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 06:21:25 +0000

[...] John Dickenson over at http://www.motionworks.com.au recently wrote up an article on a job both of us worked on for the Danny Green V Roy Jones Jr boxing fight for Main Event. It was an interesting job to work on, deadlines being cut in half then extended, usual stuff. Check it out and see the read of the story. [...]

By: Bryan Thomas

Bryan Thomas — Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:40:12 +0000

Hey John,

Very impressive! And not just on the surface… the more I watched it the more I was engaged with the sheer amount of details that you guys didn’t miss.

And yes, I also think the first was better. Everything worked in harmony, while the second one seemed to have something missing (at least in the first section). Not to mention color harmony was better in the first, too. Oh well, that’s the way it works in this industry, eh?

Again, great work!
Bryan

By: david superville

david superville — Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:43:15 +0000

the first one was excellent. the second one is pretty hokey.

By: John Dickinson

John Dickinson — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 08:10:02 +0000

Hi Zaher, Brett manually tracked the particular emitters to the boxers gloves. I love how the particles look when treated with the ball action layer. AE has never had a very good tracker unfortunately. Best wishes, John.

By: Zaher

Zaher — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 05:36:26 +0000

Hi John,both are incredible work ,but I was more taken by the first one as it put me in the fight scene instantly and blew my mind with those ` impact particles ` with there traces .
The motion tracking of those swooshes and impact was flawless and pro of course (was SynthEyes used for motion tracking ?)
I have heard that AE doesn`t have a the best motion tracking tool and animators often use other software ,is that because those software give you a better result or easy to use or is there other reason .
Thank again for sharing with us your work .

By: John Dickinson

John Dickinson — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 01:28:09 +0000

The music is by a Melbourne band, whose name I’ve forgotten…

By: KlotziDotCom

KlotziDotCom — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:54:05 +0000

Hey John,

great work on both videos. I prefer the technological look of the first one to the “final” result – which is not as bad, but not as awesome.

Just out of curiosity: Which song was used in the final track? Reminds me of BoySetsFire.

Best,

~ Klotzi

By: John Dickinson

John Dickinson — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 09:34:18 +0000

Hi Chris, the first one didn’t really have a script so it relied on Brett and I to make it look cool. The second one had a script so is more cohesive as a promotion. It would have been best to have the right script up front! Best wishes, John.

By: Chris Wharton

Chris Wharton — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:47:26 +0000

Hey John,

I really like both. I think personally it is a preference thing as to which one I like the most. The first one I really like the technique, it almost feels a bit futuristic with the cool tones. For me personally I don’t like the dialogue as much. The second one feels more like a mix between a boxing promo and a music video. I really like the Action Essentials elements especially behind the keyed footage. Overall very well done. I am curious about the song in the second one. Was it created for the piece or is it an actual song you can buy?

Keep up the amazing work,
Chris

By: John Dickinson

John Dickinson — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:08:46 +0000

Hi Ramzan, you may find something similar on Video Copilot? You could probably use SureTarget to do the camera move directly in After Effects. Best, John.

By: John Dickinson

John Dickinson — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 09:38:17 +0000

Thanks for sharing your views Vikash. Best, John.

By: Ramzan

Ramzan — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:27:23 +0000

John hello, I just want to ask you, if you can do a similar tutorial with text which you used in this video, can you do it for us?Please.. or maybe you know some links which have a similar effects tutorial.

By: Vikash Verma

Vikash Verma — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 05:58:54 +0000

I like the first one well informed everything was clear sharp but in many places i felt that the agreesive mood of the creative switched….. 2nd one was also good it well maintained the mood (agreesive) of the Boxing from stat to end but it was too dark. I mean i have to give stress in most of the part. Which is not right….. (well after all costumer is always right. What he wants we have to give him that :p)

Well my vote goes to
And the winner is 1st crative

3:) this is good ha ha ha ha

Regards
Vikash

By: John Dickinson

John Dickinson — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:22:14 +0000

Hi Lucy, I have no idea what this project was worth, I wasn’t involved in the finances. You should watch the Business of Design discussions where we talk about profit and discounting. Best, John.

By: Lucy

Lucy — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:45:11 +0000

hi jhon, really really great shots, gratz
I have a little curiosity. You know for all motiongrapher it hard to define a price for our job. I can ask how much this video?

Sorry for my horroble english, I’am poland

By: Ianh Moll

Ianh Moll — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:03:17 +0000

Thank you very much, when i do some nice video, i’ll send to show you, thanks!

By: John Dickinson

John Dickinson — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:49:49 +0000

Hi Adam, thanks for taking the time to give such a considered response. Your view as is everyone else’s who comments here on Motionworks is important and valued. Best, John.

By: Brett Morris

Brett Morris — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:52:58 +0000

Hey guys, Yes I used CS Tools – docucam for the camera move and keyframed it around the scene. I recommend this to anyone wanting you emulate a hand held feel to their camera moves, there’s some great settings in there to really get some interesting pop zooms and wobbles. I blocked the camera move with text holders within cinema 4d and attached external compositing tags to them so I could take that 3D data into after effects and create the type there. I really enjoy this workflow because it gives me the freedom to get as creative as possible with the camera and know that anything I do in after effects will marry up in the scene.
Cheers,
Brett

By: John Dickinson

John Dickinson — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:29:48 +0000

Thanks for your input Nate.

By: John Dickinson

John Dickinson — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:26:42 +0000

Hi Gyorfi, unfortunately I was away for the shoot so didn’t get to meet him. A legend indeed. Best, John.

By: John Dickinson

John Dickinson — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:23:20 +0000

Thank you Ramzan, that’s very kind.

By: John Dickinson

John Dickinson — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:20:13 +0000

Hi Ianh, I’m looking at cameras at the moment too. Many people have suggested the Canon HV20. I’m probably not the best person to ask as this hasn’t been an area I’ve looked into for some time. Good luck, John.

By: Nate Tull

Nate Tull — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:33:37 +0000

I like them both but really the 1st one is by far a better piece. I think the music in the 2nd one throws it all outta whack for me. Like I said they are both done very very nicely, but the 1st one for sure. But, you know, the one signing the check is always “right” whether they are or not if you know what I mean…