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	<title>Comments on: Unplugged 13: Chris &amp; Trish Meyer &#8211; Part 2</title>
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		<title>By: Don Hoye</title>
		<link>http://www.motionworks.com.au/2009/11/unplugged-13-meyer-02/comment-page-1/#comment-24470</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hoye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dought if any of the principles will read this but what the hey;
back in 93 Boulder Colorado was a hot bed of new technology. apple had their super secret online testing,oneworld i think they called it. anyway.we on the on the edge of these great notions were doing our best,shovel ware most of it was called,get as much data on a cd as you could,biggest title that year was dogs, followed by cats,if you sold 1000 disks you were considered a success,we had a disk on the shoemaker levy comet that hit jupiter, terrible packaging hurt us, ok all that leads to a word, mediature, i created that word in the late 80&#039;s to represent what you guys have talked about with the combination of books and video in one. just a note for posterity.
don</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dought if any of the principles will read this but what the hey;<br />
back in 93 Boulder Colorado was a hot bed of new technology. apple had their super secret online testing,oneworld i think they called it. anyway.we on the on the edge of these great notions were doing our best,shovel ware most of it was called,get as much data on a cd as you could,biggest title that year was dogs, followed by cats,if you sold 1000 disks you were considered a success,we had a disk on the shoemaker levy comet that hit jupiter, terrible packaging hurt us, ok all that leads to a word, mediature, i created that word in the late 80&#8217;s to represent what you guys have talked about with the combination of books and video in one. just a note for posterity.<br />
don</p>
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		<title>By: Eyad</title>
		<link>http://www.motionworks.com.au/2009/11/unplugged-13-meyer-02/comment-page-1/#comment-19082</link>
		<dc:creator>Eyad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John; I guess your right; no one likes to go to jail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John; I guess your right; no one likes to go to jail.</p>
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		<title>By: John Dickinson</title>
		<link>http://www.motionworks.com.au/2009/11/unplugged-13-meyer-02/comment-page-1/#comment-19063</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dickinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Eyad, I wouldn&#039;t want to go to jail for any reason! Best, John.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eyad, I wouldn&#8217;t want to go to jail for any reason! Best, John.</p>
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		<title>By: Vikash Verma</title>
		<link>http://www.motionworks.com.au/2009/11/unplugged-13-meyer-02/comment-page-1/#comment-19057</link>
		<dc:creator>Vikash Verma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thx......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thx&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Meyer</title>
		<link>http://www.motionworks.com.au/2009/11/unplugged-13-meyer-02/comment-page-1/#comment-19055</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s stories like that which sustain us over those long months when we&#039;re writing - many, many thanks. And best wishes for the continued success of your company!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s stories like that which sustain us over those long months when we&#8217;re writing &#8211; many, many thanks. And best wishes for the continued success of your company!</p>
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		<title>By: Diogo Valente</title>
		<link>http://www.motionworks.com.au/2009/11/unplugged-13-meyer-02/comment-page-1/#comment-19054</link>
		<dc:creator>Diogo Valente</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to thank Trish and Crish because they quite simply changed my life.
Today my work revolves around After Effects because of their passion for video and motion graphics and because they were kind enough to share their knowledge with the world.
Eight years ago I stumbled across after effects and was hooked... I just needed to learn it the best way possible. So I bought your book and never looked back. 
Today I own a multimedia company with 18+ people and I can honestly say that part of the success has to be credited to them. I have to thank them for opening my eyes and allowing me to do what I love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to thank Trish and Crish because they quite simply changed my life.<br />
Today my work revolves around After Effects because of their passion for video and motion graphics and because they were kind enough to share their knowledge with the world.<br />
Eight years ago I stumbled across after effects and was hooked&#8230; I just needed to learn it the best way possible. So I bought your book and never looked back.<br />
Today I own a multimedia company with 18+ people and I can honestly say that part of the success has to be credited to them. I have to thank them for opening my eyes and allowing me to do what I love.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Meyer</title>
		<link>http://www.motionworks.com.au/2009/11/unplugged-13-meyer-02/comment-page-1/#comment-19046</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re up for it! Maybe next year...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re up for it! Maybe next year&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eyad</title>
		<link>http://www.motionworks.com.au/2009/11/unplugged-13-meyer-02/comment-page-1/#comment-19024</link>
		<dc:creator>Eyad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As they say; if you want to go to jail steal something worth going to jail not just a $10 or a snack ; i believe going to jail stealing your books worth it. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As they say; if you want to go to jail steal something worth going to jail not just a $10 or a snack ; i believe going to jail stealing your books worth it. <img src='http://www.motionworks.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: John Dickinson</title>
		<link>http://www.motionworks.com.au/2009/11/unplugged-13-meyer-02/comment-page-1/#comment-19014</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dickinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Eyad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Eyad.</p>
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		<title>By: John Dickinson</title>
		<link>http://www.motionworks.com.au/2009/11/unplugged-13-meyer-02/comment-page-1/#comment-19013</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dickinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll have to have Trish and Chris on Unplugged again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll have to have Trish and Chris on Unplugged again!</p>
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		<title>By: John Dickinson</title>
		<link>http://www.motionworks.com.au/2009/11/unplugged-13-meyer-02/comment-page-1/#comment-19011</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dickinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re welcome Klas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re welcome Klas.</p>
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		<title>By: Trish Meyer</title>
		<link>http://www.motionworks.com.au/2009/11/unplugged-13-meyer-02/comment-page-1/#comment-19007</link>
		<dc:creator>Trish Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Eyad, and glad you found our books useful. Funny story: We were at a party once and got chatting to a lady who worked at our local Barnes &amp; Noble. When we mentioned we were authors she asked us what the name of our book was. When we said &quot;Creating Motion Graphics&quot; her eyes lit up and she exclaimed &quot;that&#039;s our most stolen book at Barnes &amp; Noble!&quot;  I guess that is a compliment - or maybe not (never did find out if we get paid when a book is nicked!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Eyad, and glad you found our books useful. Funny story: We were at a party once and got chatting to a lady who worked at our local Barnes &amp; Noble. When we mentioned we were authors she asked us what the name of our book was. When we said &#8220;Creating Motion Graphics&#8221; her eyes lit up and she exclaimed &#8220;that&#8217;s our most stolen book at Barnes &amp; Noble!&#8221;  I guess that is a compliment &#8211; or maybe not (never did find out if we get paid when a book is nicked!)</p>
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		<title>By: Klas</title>
		<link>http://www.motionworks.com.au/2009/11/unplugged-13-meyer-02/comment-page-1/#comment-18999</link>
		<dc:creator>Klas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for at great interview!!

//Klas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for at great interview!!</p>
<p>//Klas</p>
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		<title>By: Leo</title>
		<link>http://www.motionworks.com.au/2009/11/unplugged-13-meyer-02/comment-page-1/#comment-18992</link>
		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second that... kinda wish the interview had gone on for at last another hour or two :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second that&#8230; kinda wish the interview had gone on for at last another hour or two <img src='http://www.motionworks.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Eyad</title>
		<link>http://www.motionworks.com.au/2009/11/unplugged-13-meyer-02/comment-page-1/#comment-18990</link>
		<dc:creator>Eyad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I moved to the states a while ago; my goals were to learn motion and visual effects; I come from a graphic design/web  background.
I remember I was at Barns and Nobel; saw your books; honestly it was a different language to me but I know these 2 books are one of the first steps to help me; lots of information I did not understand , also I couldn&#039;t afford them at that time; I used to go to Barns and Nobel 4-5 times a week; browsing your books and other books too; after taking a class at UCLA my instructor mentioned your name and your books; I bought them and I couldn&#039;t tell you how happy I was just to have them next to me.

I agree with you; books are important; as well as video; but books needs to be around.
So thanks for your knowledge and information.

John; you are doing a fine job, keep it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I moved to the states a while ago; my goals were to learn motion and visual effects; I come from a graphic design/web  background.<br />
I remember I was at Barns and Nobel; saw your books; honestly it was a different language to me but I know these 2 books are one of the first steps to help me; lots of information I did not understand , also I couldn&#8217;t afford them at that time; I used to go to Barns and Nobel 4-5 times a week; browsing your books and other books too; after taking a class at UCLA my instructor mentioned your name and your books; I bought them and I couldn&#8217;t tell you how happy I was just to have them next to me.</p>
<p>I agree with you; books are important; as well as video; but books needs to be around.<br />
So thanks for your knowledge and information.</p>
<p>John; you are doing a fine job, keep it up.</p>
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		<title>By: John Dickinson</title>
		<link>http://www.motionworks.com.au/2009/11/unplugged-13-meyer-02/comment-page-1/#comment-18973</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dickinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Murat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Murat.</p>
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		<title>By: John Dickinson</title>
		<link>http://www.motionworks.com.au/2009/11/unplugged-13-meyer-02/comment-page-1/#comment-18971</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dickinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks JT, glad you found it inspiring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks JT, glad you found it inspiring.</p>
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		<title>By: John Dickinson</title>
		<link>http://www.motionworks.com.au/2009/11/unplugged-13-meyer-02/comment-page-1/#comment-18968</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dickinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s always a bummer when you invest in software and the company goes belly-up :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s always a bummer when you invest in software and the company goes belly-up <img src='http://www.motionworks.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: John Dickinson</title>
		<link>http://www.motionworks.com.au/2009/11/unplugged-13-meyer-02/comment-page-1/#comment-18967</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dickinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jim, yes the idea is that viewers get to see guests beyond their normal online persona... best, John.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jim, yes the idea is that viewers get to see guests beyond their normal online persona&#8230; best, John.</p>
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		<title>By: John Dickinson</title>
		<link>http://www.motionworks.com.au/2009/11/unplugged-13-meyer-02/comment-page-1/#comment-18966</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dickinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me too Denis. Best, John.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me too Denis. Best, John.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Silby</title>
		<link>http://www.motionworks.com.au/2009/11/unplugged-13-meyer-02/comment-page-1/#comment-18961</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Silby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John: Your website, training, tuts, and unplugged series are outstanding! After 40 years as a practicing neurologist I decided to learn video editing, mainly to begin to archive our family&#039;s life for the benefit of our 5 grandchildren. So, at age 68, I started with the Cassablanca system which allowed me to ease into the skill, I soon found it limiting and decided, with great trepidation, to jump into after effects. So, I purchased total training 6.5, and since have purchased every Cow series, Meyer&#039;s books, total training series thru 7.0, many of lynda.com dvd&#039;s, as well as in/out monthly membership to lynda.com, and take all tuts from you, and messrs.Rhabinowitz, Malaannon, Kramer, Velez, Holmes, etc etc and purchasing almost all of their and your products. 

Trying to get into after effects in 2003 would be like you deciding today that you wanted to be a neurologist: I thought &quot;alpha&quot; was a dominant male, &quot;channel&quot; was something that held water, &quot;mask&quot; something the Lone Ranger wore, &quot;transparency&quot; something that defined a shallow person, &quot;matte&quot; something you wiped your feet on, and &quot;travelling&quot; something you did when you retired. I just couldn&#039;t wrap my brain around &quot;layers&quot; and &quot;duplicating&quot;, etc. It all seemed counterintutive to my medically trained brain. Being color blind didn&#039;t/doesn&#039;t help any! But all of you helped me get from After Effects Ground Zero to 0.005% above ground zero, where I now still labor tring to learn this stuff. It&#039;s great fun, and now I mainly continue in order to keep my brain challenged and stave off Alzheimer&#039;s Disease.

Many thanks to all of you who have helped me acieve my limited AE skills that have made my 74 year old artistic life happy and fulfilled. The free stuff is terrific, but the bought stuff even better, and the two complement each other. I use Adobe CS4 with every plug in known to man/woman even tho I use almost none of the special effects when I produce a video since I don&#039;t want the FX to be the story. But just knowing I can do some of the stuff is all the reward I need. On rare occaisions I use FX just to have fun. If you want, here&#039;s a link to some intro fx stuff I did last week :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKCpsAK0uYE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John: Your website, training, tuts, and unplugged series are outstanding! After 40 years as a practicing neurologist I decided to learn video editing, mainly to begin to archive our family&#8217;s life for the benefit of our 5 grandchildren. So, at age 68, I started with the Cassablanca system which allowed me to ease into the skill, I soon found it limiting and decided, with great trepidation, to jump into after effects. So, I purchased total training 6.5, and since have purchased every Cow series, Meyer&#8217;s books, total training series thru 7.0, many of lynda.com dvd&#8217;s, as well as in/out monthly membership to lynda.com, and take all tuts from you, and messrs.Rhabinowitz, Malaannon, Kramer, Velez, Holmes, etc etc and purchasing almost all of their and your products. </p>
<p>Trying to get into after effects in 2003 would be like you deciding today that you wanted to be a neurologist: I thought &#8220;alpha&#8221; was a dominant male, &#8220;channel&#8221; was something that held water, &#8220;mask&#8221; something the Lone Ranger wore, &#8220;transparency&#8221; something that defined a shallow person, &#8220;matte&#8221; something you wiped your feet on, and &#8220;travelling&#8221; something you did when you retired. I just couldn&#8217;t wrap my brain around &#8220;layers&#8221; and &#8220;duplicating&#8221;, etc. It all seemed counterintutive to my medically trained brain. Being color blind didn&#8217;t/doesn&#8217;t help any! But all of you helped me get from After Effects Ground Zero to 0.005% above ground zero, where I now still labor tring to learn this stuff. It&#8217;s great fun, and now I mainly continue in order to keep my brain challenged and stave off Alzheimer&#8217;s Disease.</p>
<p>Many thanks to all of you who have helped me acieve my limited AE skills that have made my 74 year old artistic life happy and fulfilled. The free stuff is terrific, but the bought stuff even better, and the two complement each other. I use Adobe CS4 with every plug in known to man/woman even tho I use almost none of the special effects when I produce a video since I don&#8217;t want the FX to be the story. But just knowing I can do some of the stuff is all the reward I need. On rare occaisions I use FX just to have fun. If you want, here&#8217;s a link to some intro fx stuff I did last week :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKCpsAK0uYE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKCpsAK0uYE</a></p>
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		<title>By: Murat Erozturk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Murat Erozturk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris &amp; Trish thank you for sharing your stories with us :)really made my evening, especially at the end with the client experiences.. oh how i could so feel that :D
Thank you john keep up the fantastic work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris &amp; Trish thank you for sharing your stories with us <img src='http://www.motionworks.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> really made my evening, especially at the end with the client experiences.. oh how i could so feel that <img src='http://www.motionworks.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Thank you john keep up the fantastic work.</p>
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		<title>By: Trish Meyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trish Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How fun! Would love to see an image of your T-shirt!</description>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.motionworks.com.au/2009/11/unplugged-13-meyer-02/comment-page-1/#comment-18934</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for all of this! The topic really hits home for me, as I have just last week printed a frame of one of my AE projects on a T-shirt. The client was floored to say the least. Sold out in 1/2 hr.
Cheers to all, Steve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for all of this! The topic really hits home for me, as I have just last week printed a frame of one of my AE projects on a T-shirt. The client was floored to say the least. Sold out in 1/2 hr.<br />
Cheers to all, Steve.</p>
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		<title>By: JT</title>
		<link>http://www.motionworks.com.au/2009/11/unplugged-13-meyer-02/comment-page-1/#comment-18929</link>
		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great points on the foundation not just the style de jour and on a greater sense of creativity. Nice to listen to the conversation thanks for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points on the foundation not just the style de jour and on a greater sense of creativity. Nice to listen to the conversation thanks for sharing.</p>
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